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I can update this on the old server at any point - someone just needs to give me the go ahead. Let me know if this is something we want to do.
Cheers, Ruppert -- Tim Ruppert HotWax Media http://www.hotwaxmedia.com o:801.649.6594 f:801.649.6595 On Dec 8, 2009, at 1:43 PM, Jacques Le Roux wrote: > Hi, > > In r888559, I wrote <<I have found a way to fix old tinylinks :D http://confluence.atlassian.com/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=162988142>> > But I wonder now it this is possible by spaces else we are trapped :/ > Could you have a look David ? I guess you are the sole person with the rights for that in OFBiz community. > We may ask Gavin also... > > Thanks > > Jacques > () ascii ribbon campaign against HTML e-mail > /\ www.asciiribbon.org > > > |
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Does that really matter now? How can we fix it is the only question that matters at this point.
Cheers, Ruppert -- Tim Ruppert HotWax Media http://www.hotwaxmedia.com o:801.649.6594 f:801.649.6595 On Dec 9, 2009, at 2:42 AM, Jacques Le Roux wrote: > Hi David, Tim, > > I wonder if this should not have been done *before* the migration? > > Jacques > () ascii ribbon campaign against HTML e-mail > /\ www.asciiribbon.org > > > From: "David E Jones" <[hidden email]> >> >> The current setting for General Configuration -> Server Base Url is: >> >> http://cwiki.apache.org/confluence >> >> It looks like that is what it is supposed to be, and it doesn't appear to be a setting that can change per space or anything. >> >> -David >> >> >> On Dec 8, 2009, at 2:43 PM, Jacques Le Roux wrote: >> >>> Hi, >>> >>> In r888559, I wrote <<I have found a way to fix old tinylinks :D http://confluence.atlassian.com/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=162988142>> >>> But I wonder now it this is possible by spaces else we are trapped :/ >>> Could you have a look David ? I guess you are the sole person with the rights for that in OFBiz community. >>> We may ask Gavin also... >>> >>> Thanks >>> >>> Jacques >>> () ascii ribbon campaign against HTML e-mail >>> /\ www.asciiribbon.org >>> >>> >>> > > |
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I don't think it's a good idea to put it back - we've moved it and forever there it will stay. I also don't agree that you should encourage people to not use the tinyURLs - this probably only happens because the Confluence servers were setup very differently and with different purposes. I encourage people to use tinyURLs going forward because they will always work. This may be something you want to check with the ASF on - they're the only ones who can qualify that last statement about the tinyURLs.
Cheers, Ruppert -- Tim Ruppert HotWax Media http://www.hotwaxmedia.com o:801.649.6594 f:801.649.6595 On Dec 9, 2009, at 1:45 PM, Jacques Le Roux wrote: > Tim, > > It's depend how you see it. Facts 1st: > There are still 59 old tinylinks (begin by docs.ofbiz.org/x) scattered in the trunk. > There are also 18 pages in cwiki with at least one old tinylinks in. > > Some persons have tried to put as much as documentation in place these last years. This in order to help the community, especially newcomers (but not only). Hoping also that it will help the community to grow. I have always thought that an API, and at large a software, (with little imagiantion you can see OFBiz as a very large API) without documentation is very less usefull or at least less efficient. > > I think we begin to harvest a part of our effort, and losing a part of the intelligence put there (I mean those old tinylinks, kind of synapses) definitely annoy me. > > Alternative : > 1) Forget it and let them lost. Hoping (without much faith) that when people will get to them they will fix them, mmm... > 2) Fix them by hand (have mercy ;o) > 3) Let people know from now to not use tinylinks in cwiki. Export the 5 OFBiz cwiki spaces back to Contegix Confluence. Put http://cwiki.apache.org/confluence in place. Re-export them to cwiki. Not sure it will work, we may have to ask Confluence support before if ever we want to got this way. > 4) Find something more clever using regexp. Maybe possible because we have still both sources and I guess there are not much different tinylinks used at all. But too tired today for elaborating that > > My 2cts > > Jacques > () ascii ribbon campaign against HTML e-mail > /\ www.asciiribbon.org > > > From: "Tim Ruppert" <[hidden email]> > Does that really matter now? How can we fix it is the only question that matters at this point. > > Cheers, > Ruppert > -- > Tim Ruppert > HotWax Media > http://www.hotwaxmedia.com > > o:801.649.6594 > f:801.649.6595 > > On Dec 9, 2009, at 2:42 AM, Jacques Le Roux wrote: > >> Hi David, Tim, >> >> I wonder if this should not have been done *before* the migration? >> >> Jacques >> () ascii ribbon campaign against HTML e-mail >> /\ www.asciiribbon.org >> >> >> From: "David E Jones" <[hidden email]> >>> >>> The current setting for General Configuration -> Server Base Url is: >>> >>> http://cwiki.apache.org/confluence >>> >>> It looks like that is what it is supposed to be, and it doesn't appear to be a setting that can change per space or anything. >>> >>> -David >>> >>> >>> On Dec 8, 2009, at 2:43 PM, Jacques Le Roux wrote: >>> >>>> Hi, >>>> >>>> In r888559, I wrote <<I have found a way to fix old tinylinks :D http://confluence.atlassian.com/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=162988142>> >>>> But I wonder now it this is possible by spaces else we are trapped :/ >>>> Could you have a look David ? I guess you are the sole person with the rights for that in OFBiz community. >>>> We may ask Gavin also... >>>> >>>> Thanks >>>> >>>> Jacques >>>> () ascii ribbon campaign against HTML e-mail >>>> /\ www.asciiribbon.org >>>> >>>> >>>> >> >> > > > |
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I have to agree with Gavin - the only way to fix this is to fix the URLs.
Cheers, Ruppert -- Tim Ruppert HotWax Media http://www.hotwaxmedia.com o:801.649.6594 f:801.649.6595 On Dec 10, 2009, at 2:07 AM, Jacques Le Roux wrote: > Tim, All (after all why only Tim should be concerned?), > > I asked Gavin, as I expected (to be more clear here is my question) > <<Hi Gavin, > Despite all other redirections work, we have an issue with old tinylinks (begin by docs.ofbiz.org/x). > For instance look at > http://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OFBIZ/FAQ+-+Tips+-+Tricks+-+Cookbook+-+HowTo#FAQ-Tips-Tricks-Cookbook-HowTo-Ajax:DisableBrowserCacheforModule > I found this related FAQ http://confluence.atlassian.com/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=162988142 > David confirmed that <<The current setting for General Configuration -> Server Base Url is: http://cwiki.apache.org/confluence>> > Could you have a look at this please ?>> > > Here is his answer: > <gmcdonald> erm, I think you better look at the ofbiz wiki side of things. Having a tiny link inside asf confluence pointing to > ofbiz confluence which is set up to redirect back to asf confluence is bound to have problems, I would say that tiny links produced > with the ofbiz.org url should be changed > <gmcdonald> ... or at least check how redirection is set up at ofbiz.org, the redirects directly from ofbiz.org in some instances > point to the cwiki homepage instead of your space(s) ,this is not a tiny url or asf confluence problem as I see it > > Thanks > > Jacques > () ascii ribbon campaign against HTML e-mail > /\ www.asciiribbon.org > > From: "Jacques Le Roux" <[hidden email]> >> Hi Tim, >> >>> I encourage people to use tinyURLs going forward because they will always work >> >> I heard this before ;o). I have asked Gavin at >> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-2347?focusedCommentId=12788583&page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels%3Acomment-tabpanel#action_12788583. >> But I'm not sure it's the right side to ask. >> >> Jacques >> () ascii ribbon campaign against HTML e-mail >> /\ www.asciiribbon.org >> >> >> From: "Tim Ruppert" <[hidden email]> >> I don't think it's a good idea to put it back - we've moved it and forever there it will stay. I also don't agree that you should >> encourage people to not use the tinyURLs - this probably only happens because the Confluence servers were setup very differently >> and with different purposes. I encourage people to use tinyURLs going forward because they will always work. This may be >> something you want to check with the ASF on - they're the only ones who can qualify that last statement about the tinyURLs. >> >> Cheers, >> Ruppert >> -- >> Tim Ruppert >> HotWax Media >> http://www.hotwaxmedia.com >> >> o:801.649.6594 >> f:801.649.6595 >> >> On Dec 9, 2009, at 1:45 PM, Jacques Le Roux wrote: >> >>> Tim, >>> >>> It's depend how you see it. Facts 1st: >>> There are still 59 old tinylinks (begin by docs.ofbiz.org/x) scattered in the trunk. >>> There are also 18 pages in cwiki with at least one old tinylinks in. >>> >>> Some persons have tried to put as much as documentation in place these last years. This in order to help the community, >>> especially newcomers (but not only). Hoping also that it will help the community to grow. I have always thought that an API, and >>> at large a software, (with little imagiantion you can see OFBiz as a very large API) without documentation is very less usefull >>> or at least less efficient. >>> >>> I think we begin to harvest a part of our effort, and losing a part of the intelligence put there (I mean those old tinylinks, >>> kind of synapses) definitely annoy me. >>> >>> Alternative : >>> 1) Forget it and let them lost. Hoping (without much faith) that when people will get to them they will fix them, mmm... >>> 2) Fix them by hand (have mercy ;o) >>> 3) Let people know from now to not use tinylinks in cwiki. Export the 5 OFBiz cwiki spaces back to Contegix Confluence. Put >>> http://cwiki.apache.org/confluence in place. Re-export them to cwiki. Not sure it will work, we may have to ask Confluence >>> support before if ever we want to got this way. >>> 4) Find something more clever using regexp. Maybe possible because we have still both sources and I guess there are not much >>> different tinylinks used at all. But too tired today for elaborating that >>> >>> My 2cts >>> >>> Jacques >>> () ascii ribbon campaign against HTML e-mail >>> /\ www.asciiribbon.org >>> >>> >>> From: "Tim Ruppert" <[hidden email]> >>> Does that really matter now? How can we fix it is the only question that matters at this point. >>> >>> Cheers, >>> Ruppert >>> -- >>> Tim Ruppert >>> HotWax Media >>> http://www.hotwaxmedia.com >>> >>> o:801.649.6594 >>> f:801.649.6595 >>> >>> On Dec 9, 2009, at 2:42 AM, Jacques Le Roux wrote: >>> >>>> Hi David, Tim, >>>> >>>> I wonder if this should not have been done *before* the migration? >>>> >>>> Jacques >>>> () ascii ribbon campaign against HTML e-mail >>>> /\ www.asciiribbon.org >>>> >>>> >>>> From: "David E Jones" <[hidden email]> >>>>> >>>>> The current setting for General Configuration -> Server Base Url is: >>>>> >>>>> http://cwiki.apache.org/confluence >>>>> >>>>> It looks like that is what it is supposed to be, and it doesn't appear to be a setting that can change per space or anything. >>>>> >>>>> -David >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Dec 8, 2009, at 2:43 PM, Jacques Le Roux wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Hi, >>>>>> >>>>>> In r888559, I wrote <<I have found a way to fix old tinylinks :D >>>>>> http://confluence.atlassian.com/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=162988142>> >>>>>> But I wonder now it this is possible by spaces else we are trapped :/ >>>>>> Could you have a look David ? I guess you are the sole person with the rights for that in OFBiz community. >>>>>> We may ask Gavin also... >>>>>> >>>>>> Thanks >>>>>> >>>>>> Jacques >>>>>> () ascii ribbon campaign against HTML e-mail >>>>>> /\ www.asciiribbon.org >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> > > |
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There is no way to specifically rewrite the URLs from docs.ofbiz.org unless we clearly understand the algorithm they use for creating them - which we definitely can do - but it will take time that I do not have at the moment and it is very well outside of what Contegix can do. Anyways, if someone has some rewrites that we can apply, I'm happy to get them implemented - but I do not think anyone will have one that will actually work until they get into understanding the indexing that Confluence uses.
Cheers, Ruppert -- Tim Ruppert HotWax Media http://www.hotwaxmedia.com o:801.649.6594 f:801.649.6595 On Dec 10, 2009, at 9:36 AM, Jacques Le Roux wrote: > Tim, > > Gavin says also >> <gmcdonald> ... or at least check how redirection is set up at ofbiz.org, the redirects directly from ofbiz.org in some instances >> point to the cwiki homepage instead of your space(s) ,this is not a tiny url or asf confluence problem as I see it > > So you think there are no ways to deal with these links by a specific rewrite as it's done for other links? > BTW where is this done? I would like to have it a go... > > Jacques > () ascii ribbon campaign against HTML e-mail > /\ www.asciiribbon.org > > From: "Tim Ruppert" <[hidden email]> > I have to agree with Gavin - the only way to fix this is to fix the URLs. > > Cheers, > Ruppert > -- > Tim Ruppert > HotWax Media > http://www.hotwaxmedia.com > > o:801.649.6594 > f:801.649.6595 > > On Dec 10, 2009, at 2:07 AM, Jacques Le Roux wrote: > >> Tim, All (after all why only Tim should be concerned?), >> >> I asked Gavin, as I expected (to be more clear here is my question) >> <<Hi Gavin, >> Despite all other redirections work, we have an issue with old tinylinks (begin by docs.ofbiz.org/x). >> For instance look at >> http://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OFBIZ/FAQ+-+Tips+-+Tricks+-+Cookbook+-+HowTo#FAQ-Tips-Tricks-Cookbook-HowTo-Ajax:DisableBrowserCacheforModule >> I found this related FAQ http://confluence.atlassian.com/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=162988142 >> David confirmed that <<The current setting for General Configuration -> Server Base Url is: >> http://cwiki.apache.org/confluence>> >> Could you have a look at this please ?>> >> >> Here is his answer: >> <gmcdonald> erm, I think you better look at the ofbiz wiki side of things. Having a tiny link inside asf confluence pointing to >> ofbiz confluence which is set up to redirect back to asf confluence is bound to have problems, I would say that tiny links >> produced >> with the ofbiz.org url should be changed >> <gmcdonald> ... or at least check how redirection is set up at ofbiz.org, the redirects directly from ofbiz.org in some instances >> point to the cwiki homepage instead of your space(s) ,this is not a tiny url or asf confluence problem as I see it >> >> Thanks >> >> Jacques >> () ascii ribbon campaign against HTML e-mail >> /\ www.asciiribbon.org >> >> From: "Jacques Le Roux" <[hidden email]> >>> Hi Tim, >>> >>>> I encourage people to use tinyURLs going forward because they will always work >>> >>> I heard this before ;o). I have asked Gavin at >>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-2347?focusedCommentId=12788583&page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels%3Acomment-tabpanel#action_12788583. >>> But I'm not sure it's the right side to ask. >>> >>> Jacques >>> () ascii ribbon campaign against HTML e-mail >>> /\ www.asciiribbon.org >>> >>> >>> From: "Tim Ruppert" <[hidden email]> >>> I don't think it's a good idea to put it back - we've moved it and forever there it will stay. I also don't agree that you >>> should >>> encourage people to not use the tinyURLs - this probably only happens because the Confluence servers were setup very differently >>> and with different purposes. I encourage people to use tinyURLs going forward because they will always work. This may be >>> something you want to check with the ASF on - they're the only ones who can qualify that last statement about the tinyURLs. >>> >>> Cheers, >>> Ruppert >>> -- >>> Tim Ruppert >>> HotWax Media >>> http://www.hotwaxmedia.com >>> >>> o:801.649.6594 >>> f:801.649.6595 >>> >>> On Dec 9, 2009, at 1:45 PM, Jacques Le Roux wrote: >>> >>>> Tim, >>>> >>>> It's depend how you see it. Facts 1st: >>>> There are still 59 old tinylinks (begin by docs.ofbiz.org/x) scattered in the trunk. >>>> There are also 18 pages in cwiki with at least one old tinylinks in. >>>> >>>> Some persons have tried to put as much as documentation in place these last years. This in order to help the community, >>>> especially newcomers (but not only). Hoping also that it will help the community to grow. I have always thought that an API, and >>>> at large a software, (with little imagiantion you can see OFBiz as a very large API) without documentation is very less usefull >>>> or at least less efficient. >>>> >>>> I think we begin to harvest a part of our effort, and losing a part of the intelligence put there (I mean those old tinylinks, >>>> kind of synapses) definitely annoy me. >>>> >>>> Alternative : >>>> 1) Forget it and let them lost. Hoping (without much faith) that when people will get to them they will fix them, mmm... >>>> 2) Fix them by hand (have mercy ;o) >>>> 3) Let people know from now to not use tinylinks in cwiki. Export the 5 OFBiz cwiki spaces back to Contegix Confluence. Put >>>> http://cwiki.apache.org/confluence in place. Re-export them to cwiki. Not sure it will work, we may have to ask Confluence >>>> support before if ever we want to got this way. >>>> 4) Find something more clever using regexp. Maybe possible because we have still both sources and I guess there are not much >>>> different tinylinks used at all. But too tired today for elaborating that >>>> >>>> My 2cts >>>> >>>> Jacques >>>> () ascii ribbon campaign against HTML e-mail >>>> /\ www.asciiribbon.org >>>> >>>> >>>> From: "Tim Ruppert" <[hidden email]> >>>> Does that really matter now? How can we fix it is the only question that matters at this point. >>>> >>>> Cheers, >>>> Ruppert >>>> -- >>>> Tim Ruppert >>>> HotWax Media >>>> http://www.hotwaxmedia.com >>>> >>>> o:801.649.6594 >>>> f:801.649.6595 >>>> >>>> On Dec 9, 2009, at 2:42 AM, Jacques Le Roux wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hi David, Tim, >>>>> >>>>> I wonder if this should not have been done *before* the migration? >>>>> >>>>> Jacques >>>>> () ascii ribbon campaign against HTML e-mail >>>>> /\ www.asciiribbon.org >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> From: "David E Jones" <[hidden email]> >>>>>> >>>>>> The current setting for General Configuration -> Server Base Url is: >>>>>> >>>>>> http://cwiki.apache.org/confluence >>>>>> >>>>>> It looks like that is what it is supposed to be, and it doesn't appear to be a setting that can change per space or anything. >>>>>> >>>>>> -David >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Dec 8, 2009, at 2:43 PM, Jacques Le Roux wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Hi, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> In r888559, I wrote <<I have found a way to fix old tinylinks :D >>>>>>> http://confluence.atlassian.com/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=162988142>> >>>>>>> But I wonder now it this is possible by spaces else we are trapped :/ >>>>>>> Could you have a look David ? I guess you are the sole person with the rights for that in OFBiz community. >>>>>>> We may ask Gavin also... >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Thanks >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Jacques >>>>>>> () ascii ribbon campaign against HTML e-mail >>>>>>> /\ www.asciiribbon.org >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> > > > |
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We have until the end of the month - and then that goes as well ...
Cheers, Ruppert -- Tim Ruppert HotWax Media http://www.hotwaxmedia.com o:801.649.6594 f:801.649.6595 On Dec 10, 2009, at 10:48 AM, Jacques Le Roux wrote: > There is no hurry IMO, I noticed one point though. All of them begin by docs.ofbiz.org/x. I think this could help. I wonder if nobody crossed the same issue before and will google for a solution. But as I said no hurry, if someone needs a link simply update it. > This makes me think that we should better, if possible, keep alive the Contegix wiki before we definitively fix this issue. > > Cheers > > Jacques > () ascii ribbon campaign against HTML e-mail > /\ www.asciiribbon.org > > From: "Tim Ruppert" <[hidden email]> > There is no way to specifically rewrite the URLs from docs.ofbiz.org unless we clearly understand the algorithm they use for creating them - which we definitely can do - but it will take time that I do not have at the moment and it is very well outside of what Contegix can do. Anyways, if someone has some rewrites that we can apply, I'm happy to get them implemented - but I do not think anyone will have one that will actually work until they get into understanding the indexing that Confluence uses. > > Cheers, > Ruppert > -- > Tim Ruppert > HotWax Media > http://www.hotwaxmedia.com > > o:801.649.6594 > f:801.649.6595 > > On Dec 10, 2009, at 9:36 AM, Jacques Le Roux wrote: > >> Tim, >> >> Gavin says also >>> <gmcdonald> ... or at least check how redirection is set up at ofbiz.org, the redirects directly from ofbiz.org in some instances >>> point to the cwiki homepage instead of your space(s) ,this is not a tiny url or asf confluence problem as I see it >> >> So you think there are no ways to deal with these links by a specific rewrite as it's done for other links? >> BTW where is this done? I would like to have it a go... >> >> Jacques >> () ascii ribbon campaign against HTML e-mail >> /\ www.asciiribbon.org >> >> From: "Tim Ruppert" <[hidden email]> >> I have to agree with Gavin - the only way to fix this is to fix the URLs. >> >> Cheers, >> Ruppert >> -- >> Tim Ruppert >> HotWax Media >> http://www.hotwaxmedia.com >> >> o:801.649.6594 >> f:801.649.6595 >> >> On Dec 10, 2009, at 2:07 AM, Jacques Le Roux wrote: >> >>> Tim, All (after all why only Tim should be concerned?), >>> >>> I asked Gavin, as I expected (to be more clear here is my question) >>> <<Hi Gavin, >>> Despite all other redirections work, we have an issue with old tinylinks (begin by docs.ofbiz.org/x). >>> For instance look at >>> http://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OFBIZ/FAQ+-+Tips+-+Tricks+-+Cookbook+-+HowTo#FAQ-Tips-Tricks-Cookbook-HowTo-Ajax:DisableBrowserCacheforModule >>> I found this related FAQ http://confluence.atlassian.com/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=162988142 >>> David confirmed that <<The current setting for General Configuration -> Server Base Url is: >>> http://cwiki.apache.org/confluence>> >>> Could you have a look at this please ?>> >>> >>> Here is his answer: >>> <gmcdonald> erm, I think you better look at the ofbiz wiki side of things. Having a tiny link inside asf confluence pointing to >>> ofbiz confluence which is set up to redirect back to asf confluence is bound to have problems, I would say that tiny links >>> produced >>> with the ofbiz.org url should be changed >>> <gmcdonald> ... or at least check how redirection is set up at ofbiz.org, the redirects directly from ofbiz.org in some instances >>> point to the cwiki homepage instead of your space(s) ,this is not a tiny url or asf confluence problem as I see it >>> >>> Thanks >>> >>> Jacques >>> () ascii ribbon campaign against HTML e-mail >>> /\ www.asciiribbon.org >>> >>> From: "Jacques Le Roux" <[hidden email]> >>>> Hi Tim, >>>> >>>>> I encourage people to use tinyURLs going forward because they will always work >>>> >>>> I heard this before ;o). I have asked Gavin at >>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-2347?focusedCommentId=12788583&page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels%3Acomment-tabpanel#action_12788583. >>>> But I'm not sure it's the right side to ask. >>>> >>>> Jacques >>>> () ascii ribbon campaign against HTML e-mail >>>> /\ www.asciiribbon.org >>>> >>>> >>>> From: "Tim Ruppert" <[hidden email]> >>>> I don't think it's a good idea to put it back - we've moved it and forever there it will stay. I also don't agree that you >>>> should >>>> encourage people to not use the tinyURLs - this probably only happens because the Confluence servers were setup very differently >>>> and with different purposes. I encourage people to use tinyURLs going forward because they will always work. This may be >>>> something you want to check with the ASF on - they're the only ones who can qualify that last statement about the tinyURLs. >>>> >>>> Cheers, >>>> Ruppert >>>> -- >>>> Tim Ruppert >>>> HotWax Media >>>> http://www.hotwaxmedia.com >>>> >>>> o:801.649.6594 >>>> f:801.649.6595 >>>> >>>> On Dec 9, 2009, at 1:45 PM, Jacques Le Roux wrote: >>>> >>>>> Tim, >>>>> >>>>> It's depend how you see it. Facts 1st: >>>>> There are still 59 old tinylinks (begin by docs.ofbiz.org/x) scattered in the trunk. >>>>> There are also 18 pages in cwiki with at least one old tinylinks in. >>>>> >>>>> Some persons have tried to put as much as documentation in place these last years. This in order to help the community, >>>>> especially newcomers (but not only). Hoping also that it will help the community to grow. I have always thought that an API, and >>>>> at large a software, (with little imagiantion you can see OFBiz as a very large API) without documentation is very less usefull >>>>> or at least less efficient. >>>>> >>>>> I think we begin to harvest a part of our effort, and losing a part of the intelligence put there (I mean those old tinylinks, >>>>> kind of synapses) definitely annoy me. >>>>> >>>>> Alternative : >>>>> 1) Forget it and let them lost. Hoping (without much faith) that when people will get to them they will fix them, mmm... >>>>> 2) Fix them by hand (have mercy ;o) >>>>> 3) Let people know from now to not use tinylinks in cwiki. Export the 5 OFBiz cwiki spaces back to Contegix Confluence. Put >>>>> http://cwiki.apache.org/confluence in place. Re-export them to cwiki. Not sure it will work, we may have to ask Confluence >>>>> support before if ever we want to got this way. >>>>> 4) Find something more clever using regexp. Maybe possible because we have still both sources and I guess there are not much >>>>> different tinylinks used at all. But too tired today for elaborating that >>>>> >>>>> My 2cts >>>>> >>>>> Jacques >>>>> () ascii ribbon campaign against HTML e-mail >>>>> /\ www.asciiribbon.org >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> From: "Tim Ruppert" <[hidden email]> >>>>> Does that really matter now? How can we fix it is the only question that matters at this point. >>>>> >>>>> Cheers, >>>>> Ruppert >>>>> -- >>>>> Tim Ruppert >>>>> HotWax Media >>>>> http://www.hotwaxmedia.com >>>>> >>>>> o:801.649.6594 >>>>> f:801.649.6595 >>>>> >>>>> On Dec 9, 2009, at 2:42 AM, Jacques Le Roux wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Hi David, Tim, >>>>>> >>>>>> I wonder if this should not have been done *before* the migration? >>>>>> >>>>>> Jacques >>>>>> () ascii ribbon campaign against HTML e-mail >>>>>> /\ www.asciiribbon.org >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> From: "David E Jones" <[hidden email]> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The current setting for General Configuration -> Server Base Url is: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> http://cwiki.apache.org/confluence >>>>>>> >>>>>>> It looks like that is what it is supposed to be, and it doesn't appear to be a setting that can change per space or anything. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -David >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Dec 8, 2009, at 2:43 PM, Jacques Le Roux wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Hi, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> In r888559, I wrote <<I have found a way to fix old tinylinks :D >>>>>>>> http://confluence.atlassian.com/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=162988142>> >>>>>>>> But I wonder now it this is possible by spaces else we are trapped :/ >>>>>>>> Could you have a look David ? I guess you are the sole person with the rights for that in OFBiz community. >>>>>>>> We may ask Gavin also... >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Thanks >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Jacques >>>>>>>> () ascii ribbon campaign against HTML e-mail >>>>>>>> /\ www.asciiribbon.org >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >> >> >> > > > |
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